Thursday, October 2, 2008

Some Dem's Actually Do Have A Conscience

Here's the quick list of the senators who voted NO on bailout/economic rescue.

Allard (R)
Barasso (R)
Brownback (R)
Bunning (R)
Cantwell (D)
Cochran (R)
Crapo (R)
DeMint (R)
Dole (R)
Dorgan (D)
Enzi (R)
Feingold (D)
Inhofe (R)
Johnson (D)
Landrieu (D)
Nelson (FL) (D)
Roberts (R)
Sanders (I)
Sessions (R)
Shelby (R)
Stabenow (D)
Tester (D)
Vitter (R)
Wicker (R)
Wyden (D)


VoteNovember2008 said...

You are correct Angie. I wasn't for a bailout.

Were you insinuating I don't have a conscience? VN8

VoteNovember2008 said...

You are correct again Angie. There should be some sort of prize for you today. You are on a roll.

I couldn't agree with you more that anyone who voted for the bailout does not have a conscience. There were far less expensive solutions to this economic "crisis" but the winds have whipped this fire into firestorm and the American people think the sky is falling and the only one who can save them is the government! That doesn't come as a shock.

No one has ever bailed themselves out of debt by borrowing more money. There needs to be fiscal responsibility and our government has shown us time and time again that they have forgotten what that responsibility means. Therefore the citizens of this country also show no restraint!

Case and point, don't borrow something that you can't pay back. If you can't pay cash, don't buy it. I will add that I do believe there is an exception there, I do give some leniency to mortgages, but that's about as far as I go. I started my own business and have never borrowed a penny to start it or keep it running.

People live beyond their means and that's one reason we are in this mess. VN8

Lee said...

Get them in some mud! I love this stuff!

VoteNovember2008 said...

Angie, I couldn't wait to get home and respond to your comment about business and how they actually can start up without borrowing money.

This isn't a set up but I want to see where your head is regarding economics. I'll give you three guesses if you want to take a guess at how businesses can start up without borrowing money. With the mindset of a majority of Americans, this can be a tough question.

I commented that I started a business without borrowing a dime. Do you know how that can be accomplished? I'm all for small businesses. Small businesses are really the heart and soul of our economy. We pay a lot of taxes. I'm not against people who borrow money, that's their prerogative, it is just my choice to not be in a position of indebtedness. When economic hard times come, it removes the fear factor to some degree.

So are you game? There's no gotcha, no judgement from me, I'm just curious what your three guesses might be. You are on a roll as stated before, so give it your best shot, what do you say?

As for the title of this blog, everyone knows I'm a conservative, so there was no intent in the title other than I was shocked that there were actually some Democrats that stood with the Republicans that have a conscience.


VoteNovember2008 said...

I'd rather not disclose that information. But I've been in business since 1995. VN8

VoteNovember2008 said...

Angie, I'm not confusing being an independent contractor with owning a business. I am not an independent contractor, I own a business. I have overhead, I have equipment. But I didn't borrow any money. I started out small, I had three part time jobs, slowly but surely I built my business and let a part time job go until I no longer needed the part time jobs. But there is a way to start a business without borrowing money and you did hit the nail on the head, it's savings. I saved until I had enough to start my business. You win again! VN8

VoteNovember2008 said...

Susannah, I'm not trying to be coy, I just don't care to disclose personal information on-line. I don't have any employees, I do have overhead and I do own equipment. I was given a wise piece of advice when I started my business, "don't buy anything til you absolutely need it." It has worked for me and I have been successful and am in the process of selling the business when the market permits at quite a profit. Without meaning to be vague, I hope that answers your question. VN8

VoteNovember2008 said...

#1) try and take a deep breath. #2) when someone starts a business they don't need to jump in the deep end.
#3) start out small and build a business from that point.

People don't need to have all the bells and whistles just starting out. If someone wants to open a jewelry store, maybe they need to buy some jewelry and sell it however they can til they can afford a store front and inventory, there's always a way. People want it all and they want it now. If they don't have the capital to have it all now, then maybe that's not a wise business decision. I'm not trying to convince you that the way I think is right for you, but it has worked for me.

Take Truett Cathy that owns Chick-fil-a, he started out small and look where he is today.

(Truett Cathy first started in the restaurant business in 1946 by opening a 24-hour diner in the Atlanta suburb of Hapeville, Ga. The restaurant was so small – only 10 stools and four tables – that Cathy and his brother, Ben, decided to call the restaurant the Dwarf Grill (later renamed the Dwarf House).

The problem, IMO, that most people make today is that we think we have to have it all and we have to have it all now. That's not necessary. The people who founded this country had to start small, they worked hard and they saved. If you read back in my June blogs I posted a blog about my grandparents and they did just that, they saved and by the time they were in their 50's they retired with little or no education.

I'm not saying it's wrong to do it another way, I'm just saying it isn't necessary.

I'm very proud that your family was successful in their business. Entrepreneurship is a rare thing! But it is possible without debt, that's all I'm saying. VN8

VoteNovember2008 said...

Susannah, please see my reply to Angie, that should answer your questions. Thanks for stopping by, I'm happy to have you here. I'm off to bed, back to the salt mines tomorrow morning! I have to go in early. VN8

VoteNovember2008 said...

Well thank you very much. But I did answer your question. You asked about jewelry stores and I explained that to you. Start small and build from there. Thanks for stopping by. Oh and yes, Gov. Palin is brilliant isn't she? VN8

VoteNovember2008 said...

Susannah, my principle is to not be in debt. That's my principle, if it doesn't work for someone else that's their prerogative, but it is possible and if more people would realize that debt is a noose around their necks, plenty of fear of what will happen tomorrow if the sky falls would be eliminated in my humble opinion. VN8